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KDE4 and Debian

I figured it’s time for me to try and install kde4 again! Previously I had to remove KDE4 due to package conflicts. There are installation instructions at:

http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/experimental.html

So following the instructions there on what changes to make to your sources.list, and then run:

aptitude update

I’ve had some dependency issues, and installing the kde4 package (a meta-package that will install all of KDE4) would not install due to dependency issues with the kdegraphics package. The way around this is to install the kde4-minimal package and whichever of the other packages you want. So I installed everything, minus the kdegraphics package via the following:

aptitude install -t experimental kde4-minimal kdeplasma-addons kdegames kdemultimedia kdenetwork kdepim kdeutils kdeedu kdeadmin kdeartwork kdetoy

Be prepared for a lot of packages to be installed, for others to be removed, and to possibly break your existing kde3 installation (if you have one). See the first comment to see what I had to install and remove.

Firstly, KDE4 does not import any of your KDE3 settings, which is pretty annoying, as all of the applications start with the default settings, and is really annoying with applications like kmail … however some has created a tool to import the settings:

http://silentcoder.co.za/silentcoder/?page_id=330

My only complaint about the tool, is that it requires root to install it. I’d also like the option to be able to run the tool without first having to install it. Anyways, it seems to work pretty well and imported all of my mail into kmail, the only thing it didn’t do was import account settings into kmail.

This post is a work in progress, I’ll update it over the next day or so with any further instructions as I install, configure, and test KDE4.

E17 on Debian

Quickie install instructions:

Add the following lines to your /etc/apt/sources.list:

# repo from Falko Schmidt:

deb http://debian.alphagemini.org/ unstable main

This will also require you to have Debian’s unstable branch listed in your sources.list .

If your have Enlightenment DR16 installed or any other versions of E17 installed you’ll need to uninstall them:

sudo aptitude remove –purge enlightenment-data enlightenment e17 emodule* libevas* libefreet*

Install Falko’s E17 build:

sudo aptitude install -t unstable e17-desktop e17-extras e17 eutils emodules0-all enlightenment

And this should install E17! Logout and select Enlightenment from the session list of your login manager. I’ll update this post with more details later in the week or at the weekend.


Look for my latest posting on E17 as this information could be out-of-date:

http://timony.com/mickzblog/category/e17/

This article originally posted at:

http://timony.com/mickzblog/2008/04/24/e17-on-debian/

Update on Enlightenment E17 for Debian

Update: I’ve decided to use Falko’s packages, see my posting here:
http://timony.com/mickzblog/2008/04/24/e17-on-debian/

If you want to run E17 on Debian you have 4 choices (as of April 2008):

Wait for E17 packages to make it into Debian’s experimental repository:
http://sicherheitsschwankung.de/post/jan/2008-03-31/going-debconf-08

The Debian E17 team are in the process of loading packages into Debian experimental branch and they should be available in the near (or not so near) future.

Use the AlphafeMini repository for Debian Sid/Unstable, created by Falko Schmidt. See http://xsm.alphagemini.org/E17/repository/ for more details.

Maybe use Elive’s repositories to install E17 as Elive is based on Debian, but this may cause other problems as Elive might be based on a older version of Debian (anyone know?).

Compile your own see http://www1.get-e.org/EFL_User_Guide/English/_pages/2.2.html for more details. But, you will have to uninstall these if you ever want to install a pre-packaged version, plus you’ll have to manually update packages yourself.


Interestingly, Falko Schmidt is also a member of the team working on the E17 packages that are going into experimental, so using Falko’s packages might be the safest and easiest approach to get E17 on Debian. However, when packages are available in experimental (and eventually in Sid), you may need to purge Falko’s packages and install the Debian experimental ones.

I’m going to e-mail Falko to see if he has an opinion on this.

Look for my latest posting on E17 as this information could be out-of-date:

http://timony.com/mickzblog/category/e17/

This article originally posted at:

http://timony.com/mickzblog/2008/04/17/update-on-enlightenment-e17-for-debian/

Enlightement e17 on Ubuntu Screenshots

E17 Darkness Theme on Ubuntu:

E17 Darkness Theme on Ubuntu with the menu highlighted:

E17 Darkness theme with a wallpaper from vladstudio.com:

Themes are available from get-e.org. The packages for Ubuntu come with Darkness and other themes, the Debian package appears to only come with the default theme.

Look for my latest posting on E17 as this information could be out-of-date:

http://timony.com/mickzblog/category/e17/

Enlightement e17 on Debian & Ubuntu

Update, April 17th, 2008:

This post is out of date, for a Debian update see:

http://timony.com/mickzblog/2008/04/17/update-on-enlightenment-e17-for-debian/

See newer instructions for Ubuntu here:

http://timony.com/mickzblog/2008/04/15/e17-on-ubuntu-revisited/

Look for my latest postings on E17 as this information could be out-of-date:

http://timony.com/mickzblog/category/e17/

UPDATE, April 14th 2008:

Edevelop.org is temporarily down as they move their server to a new datacenter, which means these instructions will not work for Debian until the server is back online. However, for Ubuntu you can use the Dunnewind.net repository. Follow the instructions below, and comment out references to the Edevelop.org repository. I’ll do a proper update in the near future, or create a new posting and separate out the Debian & Ubuntu instructions.

Announcement below:

http://www1.get-e.org/Main/News/_articles/381.html


Edevelop.org has e17 packages for both Debian & Ubuntu. If you’d like to install the packages on either Debian or Ubuntu follow the procedure below:

Note: Not responsible for any damage this might do to your system.

Debian
For Debian sid/unstable edit /etc/apt/sources.list as root or using sudo and add the following lines:
# enlightenment e17 packages:
deb http://edevelop.org/debian unstable main

Ubuntu
If your using Ubuntu Edgy, add the following line to your sources.list, found in /etc/apt/:
# enlightenment e17 packages:
deb http://edevelop.org/pkg-e/ubuntu edgy e17
deb http://e17.dunnewind.net/ubuntu edgy e17

You can replace “edgy” with “gutsy” or “hardy”. Also, I’m not sure if there conflicts between the edevelop & dunnewind repostiories. And I cannot test them as edevelop is still down.

Update package list
Next you’ll need to update the package list:
sudo apt-get update
If needed install signing key
If you get the following warning:
W: GPG error: http://edevelop.org edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 223020C2A7C6F0DF
you can add the signing key for the Edevelop repository. This is trivial to do, but not necessary, if you don’t do this you’ll receive a warning every time you update or install a package from edevelop.org:
cd /tmp/;
wget http://lut1n.ifrance.com/repo_key.asc;
sudo apt-key add repo_key.asc;

Install E17
To see most of the E17 packages available:
apt-cache search e17
To install all the packages (as of Feb-18-2007) on Debian:
sudo apt-get install e17 e17-extras engage engage eclair libemotion0-xine
To install all the packages (as of Feb-18-2007) on Ubuntu:
sudo apt-get install e17 engage libewl1-engines-all libewl1-engines-all engage

If you want to see what any of the packages provides you can use apt-cache show packagename. e.g.

apt-cache show e17
Package: e17
Source: enlightenment
Version: 1:0.16.999.037-0cvs20070217
Priority: optional
Section: x11
Maintainer: Falko Schmidt
Depends: enlightenment, e17-libs, e17-modules, eutils
Suggests: e17-extras
Architecture: i386
Filename: dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/x11/e17_0.16.999.037-0cvs20070217_i386.deb
Size: 8702
Installed-Size: 48
MD5sum: 1bf3e406695b3145fb3bb48944bb44ff
Description: Virtual package providing the E17 desktop shell
Enlightenment is an advanced window manager for X11. Unique
features include: a fully animated background, nice drop shadows
around windows, backed by an extremely clean and optimized
foundation of APIs.
.
This virtual package provides all you need to run E17:
* E17 windowmanager
* E17 modules
* E17 tools.

Logout and at the Login Screen, click on Session and select Enlightenment.

Thanks to the Enlightenment developers for creating Enlightement and continuing work on E17, and thanks to the folk at Edevelop.org for building and hosting the E17 packages.

For more information see the following links:
http://forums.debian.net/
https://launchpad.net/e17-repository
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ebuntu

Update: removed e-mail address in package listing.

Look for my latest posting on E17 as this information could be out-of-date:

http://timony.com/mickzblog/category/e17/

This originally posted at:

http://timony.com/mickzblog/2007/02/18/enlightement-e17-on-debian-ubuntu/